Post by mirium on Feb 10, 2009 10:41:38 GMT -5
(This is the one where the CSIs discover they convicted the wrong guy, just as the verdict comes in.)
Wow, the writers have suddenly decided to the characters aren't perfect! I kind of like the change, it makes things more realistic and less predictable.
I know there have been a lot of complaints that real juries now expect evidence to be processed like it is on CSI shows -- every possible bit of evidence found, examined, and absolutely proving guilt. I wonder if this was a reaction to that problem?
I enjoyed the Insensitive Frank moment (which was in character, although I love the guy), and the way someone else apologized to the victim for him -- because there's no way Frank would see the problem! ;D
Am I the only one who assumed Ryan was acting under orders when he accosted the suspect, and was surprised to find out he wasn't? Or maybe he was acting under orders, Horatio didn't exactly reprimand him....
And man, I wish they'd quit bashing attorneys who defend accused people. Snagging that water bottle to prevent the CSIs from getting a DNA sample wasn't sleazy; if you stop thinking of the CSIs as automatic heroes and suspects as guilty, trying to trick someone into providing evidence against their will is the dirty trick. (Although IMO it's legitimate, it's how the game is played.) What burns my butt, though, is that the show GOT THEIR FACTS WRONG about how lawyers behave.
"You know I can't tell you where he hid the girl"? Au contraire, mon frere!
(b) When Lawyer Must Reveal Information.
A lawyer shall reveal such information to the extent the lawyer reasonably believes necessary:
(1) to prevent a client from committing a crime; or
(2) to prevent a death or substantial bodily harm to another.
(emphasis added.)
That's from the Florida Rules Of Professional Conduct, which attorneys have to obey -- it's not optional! The attorney was not only allowed to reveal the girl's location, he was REQUIRED to do so -- and if he hadn't coughed up the info, he could (and quite likely would) have been disbarred (lost his license to practice law). Which is just common sense -- lawyers wrote those Rules, and they don't want to be put in the position of knowing a crime is going to be committed and being powerless to prevent it! Contrary to popular opinion, most lawyers are decent people, including criminal defense lawyers. But there are some scumbags, same as any other job; the writers don't have to spread misinformation to get a good villain! Target the ones who break the rules instead -- such as the judge.
Okay, rant over.
Other than that "technical detail", I thought the episode was better than average, and a change of pace for the show.
Oh, and is it my imagination, or did the promo clip ("You're making my harassment complaint easy, Lieutenant") never appear in the actual episode?
Wow, the writers have suddenly decided to the characters aren't perfect! I kind of like the change, it makes things more realistic and less predictable.
I know there have been a lot of complaints that real juries now expect evidence to be processed like it is on CSI shows -- every possible bit of evidence found, examined, and absolutely proving guilt. I wonder if this was a reaction to that problem?
I enjoyed the Insensitive Frank moment (which was in character, although I love the guy), and the way someone else apologized to the victim for him -- because there's no way Frank would see the problem! ;D
Am I the only one who assumed Ryan was acting under orders when he accosted the suspect, and was surprised to find out he wasn't? Or maybe he was acting under orders, Horatio didn't exactly reprimand him....
And man, I wish they'd quit bashing attorneys who defend accused people. Snagging that water bottle to prevent the CSIs from getting a DNA sample wasn't sleazy; if you stop thinking of the CSIs as automatic heroes and suspects as guilty, trying to trick someone into providing evidence against their will is the dirty trick. (Although IMO it's legitimate, it's how the game is played.) What burns my butt, though, is that the show GOT THEIR FACTS WRONG about how lawyers behave.
"You know I can't tell you where he hid the girl"? Au contraire, mon frere!(b) When Lawyer Must Reveal Information.
A lawyer shall reveal such information to the extent the lawyer reasonably believes necessary:
(1) to prevent a client from committing a crime; or
(2) to prevent a death or substantial bodily harm to another.
(emphasis added.)
That's from the Florida Rules Of Professional Conduct, which attorneys have to obey -- it's not optional! The attorney was not only allowed to reveal the girl's location, he was REQUIRED to do so -- and if he hadn't coughed up the info, he could (and quite likely would) have been disbarred (lost his license to practice law). Which is just common sense -- lawyers wrote those Rules, and they don't want to be put in the position of knowing a crime is going to be committed and being powerless to prevent it! Contrary to popular opinion, most lawyers are decent people, including criminal defense lawyers. But there are some scumbags, same as any other job; the writers don't have to spread misinformation to get a good villain! Target the ones who break the rules instead -- such as the judge.
Okay, rant over.
Other than that "technical detail", I thought the episode was better than average, and a change of pace for the show. Oh, and is it my imagination, or did the promo clip ("You're making my harassment complaint easy, Lieutenant") never appear in the actual episode?
I don't expect them to have him on every episode or even talk about him all the time. But, you would think Horatio's co-workers would ask him how Kyle is doing or something. They don't even do that. It's like Kyle doesn't exist anymore.